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    Posted: Apr 18 2011 at 5:35pm
             I thought of putting this subject matter
 in the Village section, but that section's focus is
 mainly political. While wars are usually end with a
 political outcome, how they start can be another
 issue.
            When I was just a kid..maybe just old enough
 to be curious with adult behavior, I had a facination
 with stories,TV shows, and movies about World War II.
       I had a hard time understanding how millions of
 people could go to all ends of the earth, chase each
 other around, and do all this with the intent on killing
 each other in very brutal ways.
       Most of all the war footage shown on TV and the
 old war movies didn't really depict the human carnage
 in a way that was "real." I wondered about that too.
       I was told that the people who fought in the
 "big one" didn't want to talk about it. Much later in
 my life I found out why. The reality of that war was
 hidden from children..like we couldn't handle seeing
 things like that. We were to be "protected" and
 isolated from the insane sickness of war. Not to
 be viewed by young eyes..no no.
          It took me many years to figure out the entire
 story of World War II, and I still am learning more
 about it to this day.
          I think that the subject of war has a place
 in this Village for discussion because wars have not
 gone away. They are not yet obsolete. People are still
 killing each other off in wars nearly all over the globe.
       We should have a healthy understanding of
 war and how it happens. I'll be posting pieces on
 this subject in this thread to provoke some discussion.
      With the U.S. now involved in 3 wars, I feel it's
 time we probe this twisted war logic and try to
 figure it out. It's not a pleasent discussion, but one
  that needs examination by members here.
       History can be boring but war history is far
 from it. It's the most important history we have
 that may someday save our lives, or our children.
 
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          Many of us have relatives who may have fought
 in wars. Some alive, and some not. One of my Mom's
 brothers fought in World War II. He was a eighteen
 year old kid that got drafted near the end of the conflict.
         He was a sailor on a warship that went to
 Okinawa for one of the last battles of the war in the
 pacific theater. I remember going to a family reunion
 and hearing him speak about his expirences aboard
 his ship. I was maybe 7 or eight years old at the time.
      Near Okinawa his ship came under attack from
 japanese Kamakasi aircraft. My Uncle was a gunner
 on a Forty MM anti-aircraft [pom pom] cannon.
     During one of these attacks, a Japanese plane
 was headed toward his ship. He began firing his
 cannon at the plane with a fury of shells.
     I got all excited hearing the details and ask him
 the obvious question: "Did you get him?"
      My Uncle laughed and then told us that there were
 many large ships near his..and that every gun, on
 all those ships were firing at this airplane at the same
 time. They blew the aircraft to bits but my Uncle
 could not lay claim to being the "One" that "Got" him.
    I felt at the time that my Uncle was a hero and
 contributed to winning the war. I'm sure the entire
 family felt the same. He didn't act or posture himself
 like some kind of hero for us to admire. Thinking
 back to that day I bet my Uncle was thinking he
 was just lucky to be alive and survived the war.
  Thats how he acted at the time...anyway.
 
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             Most folks believe wars are started and fought
 over religious views, land and borders, nationalism and
 tribal disputes, and reasons related to these factors.
        When you look real hard at the reasons for wars
 it boils down to mainly two issues. Stealing natural
 resources from others, and foreign policy double-cross.
      The last BIG war, World War II, these factors set
 everything in motion.
         Japan wanted to expand it's empire and invaded
 China and south-east Asia. The U.S. didn't like this
 expansion and placed tariffs and holds on any exports
 going to japan from America and it's allies.
    Japan attacked at Pearl Harbor over natural resources that were witheld from them through foreign policy
 moves.
            Looking at the Nazis, Hitler  double-crossed
 everybody he came in contact with. nationalism
 played a minor role, but greed and double-cross
 were the major reasons for the entire affair.
       The U.S. Constitution does not allow the U.S.
 government to interfere with the internal operations
 of foreign countries, unless we declare war on them
 with Congressional approval... A formal declaration
 of war. That fact makes you wonder what the hell
 is going on within the U.S. State Department
 regarding foreign policy decisions on war matters
 since World War II.
        Every Presidential administration that has come
 along since FDR died has contained people who
  usurp and have ignored the rule of law contained
 in our Constitution. We are now seeing the "blowback"
 of these foreign policy mistakes.
 
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