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    Posted: Dec 04 2011 at 3:04am
~ Sex & Selling It... What's Twisted, What's Real ~


Since the '70's & Subliminal Seduction
... In commercial advertising,
has anything changed for the better
or
has the relentless image manipulation
geared to sell more commercial stuff,
gotten even more twisted?

What's the net result of all of this?


— Killing Us Softly 3: Advertising’s Image of Women —

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- http://www.documentarywire.com/killing-us-softly-3# -
(Click to Watch)


"Jean Kilbourne continues her groundbreaking analysis
of advertising’s depiction of women
in her pioneering
Killing Us Softly series.
In fascinating detail, Kilbourne decodes an array of
print and television advertisements
to reveal a pattern of disturbing and destructive gender stereotypes.
Her analysis challenges us to consider the relationship
between advertising
and broader issues of
culture, identity, sexism, and gender violence."

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— The Photoshop Effect —


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       — Digiatal Image Manipulation —
       

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— Celebrities Before And After Photoshop —



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I don't agree with about 99% of what this woman is saying.

Bodies are art forms... men's and woman's. In advertising sex will always sell. We see sex everywhere every day, not just in ads. Our brains are wired to make sexual associations.

When boys and girls are brought up to look at only their differences as being important, with a neglect placed on their similarities, that kind of upbringing brings on an unnecessary tension, when kids hit puberty, because they are at a greater loss with how to communicate easily with each other. This loss never really goes away.

Some cultures celebrate this loss as being helpful in creating sexual tension. Supposedly the tension helps keep a marriage together, because viva la difference. There's emphasis placed on manipulation and keeping each other off balance to keep people sexually interested and therefore more likely to be monogamous.

Men and woman who communicate with each other more similarly, and enjoy each other sexually, by moving in and out of each other's roles, have a greater chance of having a fulfilling marriage, without all of the bullshit of jealousy and control and arguing over each other's unfulfilled expectations.

The woman who is making a point about how women are treated differently than men in ads, is actually making a divisive point. She doesn't realize that by trying to regulate what we see in this manner, she's actually demoting a woman's self worth, not saving it.

Woman are and will always be objects of interest. Men are and will always be objects of interest. There's absolutely no difference.

Sex is better when a person is in good physical condition. There's nothing wrong with empowering a woman in an ad, who looks healthy. Healthy is not fat. Healthy is not skin and bones either. Men like breasts... so what. Some men like big ones and some like small ones. Women have the same interests in a man's body.

I don't know Geno... I listened to the whole thing, and I got really annoyed. When she objected to the "Fetish" perfume ad where it said that the woman should apply it generously to her neck, so he could smell it while she was shakes her head no... She COMPLETELY missed the point! She thought that ad encouraged men and women to think it was ok to be used sexually by a man, even though the woman was saying no... That wasn't it at all... The ad was targeting role playing and the manipulative sides of both woman and men... a woman who wants a man to want her, even though she's saying no... and a woman who wants a man to remember her and long for her, as she's rejecting him. She's playing the innocent... but far from it... just look at the picture. lol

In terms of the photoshopped pictures, I look at that as a cool artistic tool. Great painters and sculptors over the ages did the same thing.

I really think that the thing that damages a young person's body image is more what they're being taught to think from their parents. I had a friend who was a model. She basically taught her daughter to be afraid of food. Today, her daughter is a high end model and designer in Europe. She also looks like she's on the verge of death at 22. That wasn't society influence. That was parental influence.

Actors and actresses are looking more and more like avatars in movies. This opens opportunities and also takes them away. It's the same thing that happens in any age. The art form may change, but the subject matter is always there. SEX

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Mixey is right. Sex has always been used to sell.
 
That won't change any time soon.
 
As is always the case with just about every situation in life, there will always be
those who have the intellect and the capacity to see it and understand it for
what it is... merely a means to an end; an attempt to fire your imagination
enough that you're moved to buy somebody's product.
 
And there will always be those who cannot process that visual information
properly and put it in the proper perspective for any number of reasons,
some of which Mixey touched on.
 
What's to be done? Not much. Other than to raise your kids with a healthy
perspective on sex, and the way it is used to sell. Helping them understand
these issues is crucial. When these are issues a teenager feels safe talking to
Mom and Dad about there's a far greater chance that they'll develop realistic
perspectives and healthy attitudes about sex. Because sex is an absolutely
essential component in a healthy adult's life, as is understanding how and why
it's used to sell everything.
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Gene_Leone_Mix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Jan 09 2012 at 11:34pm
Well go figure & guess what...

The Internet Police vs Bad PhotoShop...


PhotoShop violations to become a misdemenor with $1,000.00 fines if law is passed? Wow!

Read this Political Insider story by Jim Galloway.
10:48 am January 9, 2012, by jgalloway

— Bill would ban Photoshopped heads on nude, lewd bodies —

(full story here)



Hereis the wording of the Bill:

http://www.legis.ga.gov/Legislation/20112012/118093.pdf


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I AM SO SICK OF POLITICIANS.
Let's just herd 'em all onto a large boat, tow it out to sea and sink it. Unceremoniously.
 
That'd be a step in the right direction.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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