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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dream207 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 23 2007 at 11:06am
Boy!!!  That pen is a treasure for sure!!
 
Nice write up on his passing.  It's more comprehensive than others I've read.
 
It is a he said/she said story, but you have to wonder how much he remembers of what he might have done under the influence of crack.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kitten Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Dec 23 2007 at 11:42am
I heard that remark of Ike's before but I forgot whom said it, and this was way before internet. "It's hard to jump outta a window through a basement window?"
 
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Check this statement from Phil
Spector at Ike
Turners funeral
 
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Oh Dear, Whats the real deal here?  Tina to me had something that Ike could not control?
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Hi Snick & Lindz,
 
There's even more on what Spector said at Ike's funeral in the "Death of A Rock and Roll Icon" thread under Music General.
 
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Interesting reads Sue! 

Now they're reporting in some of the rags that he was partying with women and drugging right up 'till his death.  That's not what I heard here locally; but who knows.
 
Spector is a character. . . but I have to agree with some of what he's saying. Oprah can easily give legitimacy to a book, which may not be deserving.
 
I think that the combination of Ike and Tina made Tina.  I wouldn't want to give credit to one and not the other. Again, as much as I like Tina Turner. . .and appreciate her uniqueness, it's understandable from the viewpoint of a producer that there really could have been 4 other stars, i. e. "Tinas" that Spector saw.
 
Anyone who beats the crap out of someone else, is awful.  That includes telling lies about someone too.  So who knows where the truth is?
 
I didn't know Ike was that good of a player.  I'm going to enjoy digging out some of his stuff and listening better.
 
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Snick. . . SPAT can move this to the other thread if you want. Just let them know.
 
((( S. P. A. T. )))
 
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Actually I'm an idiot. . . I see what you're doing... dah.  Just consider that another stupid musician comment... lol
 
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Mixey,
Yeah I heard that there's a question about what woman he was actually married to as well...if they gave him a medical death sentence, I could see Ike saying "what the hell" ...
 
The g.f. he was with when I interviewed him is the one who's claiming he married her a few years ago and has it on Myspace. She looks just like Tina, although when I pointed that out Ike screamed no.
 
I think if Ike hadn't met Tina and brought her out of obscurity, it's not clear she would have broken through, living in St. Louis.
 
As for playing, he told me he preferred his first instrument, the piano, although everybody thought of him as a guitarist because of the Ike and Tina Revue. He had reverted to piano in his last band.
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Hi Sue,
Interesting....
 
Thanks for posting, you've always got some good info and good articles to share from your up-close & personal interviews.
 
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Yes, please have SPAT move it. I'm still having trouble moving around in this site.
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I hope that Ike's story can be told one day Sue; and I hope no-one did him in.

It would be really nice if people weren't so bent on manipulating the truth; and would just tell a story from their perspective.
 
Most of the stories that came out after Elvis died, were ridiculous! 
 
I can imagine that history will be re-written all over the place with Ike too.
 
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Moving now.
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Done Snick.
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Mixey,
 
Well anyone who tells Ike's story will have a point of view; the "Roshomon" effect.
 
If they're at least honest about it that helps.... With Tina's story part of the culture now, maybe someone will do a movie from Ike's viewpoint. Certainly they didn't show you in "What's Love Got to Do With It" what a musical pioneer he was...
 
 
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This week in "Newsweek Magazine":
 
 
 
 
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The Medical Examiner's report is in, Ike Turner died of an overdose of cocaine. He continued to use cocaine despite having emphizema and heart issues.
 
 
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SAD!!!!  I guess when that drug takes hold it just won't let go.
 
Rest In Peace, Ike...
 
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WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS THERE AIN'T NO NEED ON BEATING ON A DEAD HORSE ANYMORE - THERE'S NO NEED TO. R.I.P IKE.
 
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